TWIG 692: Alex Stamos

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This was an outstanding episode. Alex brought a measured but immensely knowledgable perspective to each of the shows topics.

On alleged Chinese “escort spam” on Twitter it was refreshing not to see the panel jump to conclusions that it was definitely state sponsored - as Alex points out certainly the coincidence is there but not the evidence. It makes me wonder how Elon feels about this form of brigading / DDoS drowning out real and objectively important discussions; I’m not being entirely facetious when I say he must be somewhat OK with it as it is “free speech” by definition, it’s a just that it’s a firehose of free speech resulting in the “tears in the rain” effect.

The Joe Sullivan story is horrifying and dovetails in nicely with the recent episode from a week or so back where CISO liability was discussed. I certainly find myself quite angered that a CEO and General Counsel can advice an executive to a course of action that results in personal legal liability for the executive. Injustice is of course a common denominator in our world so this isn’t especially more egregious than other instances yet it still rubs me the wrong way to hear this case as described by Alex. The devil’s advocate position is also quite important to articulate and recognise i.e., that the executive in question could have (should have??) asserted whistleblower protection and reported on this, or otherwise stepped down in protest at the breach of any reasonable code of ethics.

The whole affair does make one think twice about which CEOs and executive teams are OK to work with. But how can one know in advance if a CEO will play loose with the rules and ultimately throw staff under the bus when caught out? Thankfully, Alex’s “Spidey Sense” paid dividends on this occasion for him personally.

The highlight of the episode for me was Alex’s insightful view on what should tech companies do about rogue content, disinformation and therefore moderation. We will not solve humanities millennia-long ills through the introduction of new technology but surely we can expect tech companies to play some part in attenuating the most extreme views that inevitably lead to crimes of moral turpitude. That they at least “shouldn’t make things worse” I think sums thing up really well. Personally I feel tech companies should do a little more than that baseline, but as a baseline it seems like a good place to start.

Anyway something gives me the impression this will be a very talked about episode. Thanks TWiG team @ant_pruitt @leo @JeffJarvis and of course Alex for such an information dense and thought provoking two hours.

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One of the most enjoyable shows I’ve ever done. Alex was a fount of useful and fascinating information. I came away from this one with more energy than I started with. Totally engrossing!

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Just watched the ep. Not a usual TWiG listener but had to tune in for Stamos. Going to be sending the portions about his middle school speech to a few friends of mine who are parents. Great episode all around.

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Was outstanding. THANK YOU for listening. Fascinating

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it was an incredible episode

I agree, great show!

100% agree. Fascinating ep.