Lessons learned migrating to 2023 Mac mini from 2014 iMac

I was very happy with my 2014 27” iMac Retina but Apple kindly made it obsolete. No upgrades from Apple or from some key app vendors forced me to consider a new machine. With no direct replacement for the all-in-one 27” and with no prospect of a 24” with M2 processor, I decide to migrate to the M2 Mac mini.

Initially, I planned to pair it with an Asus display but that rapidly ended when I found that the USB hub feature did not work and the speaker quality was poor. The Asus went back and I had to pay the exorbitant price for an Apple Studio display. Although the very competent Apple Store employee was not sure whether I could use the ports on the display for anything other than daisy chaining other displays, they do in fact work perfectly with external drives, cameras, links to hi-fi, etc.

I planned very carefully for the migration just in case the Time Machine transfer did not work and I might have to build the new machine from scratch by hand. Fortunately, the Time Machine migration worked very well. Nevertheless, I was left with a great deal of work to ensure the new machine did everything my old machine does and in the way I want it to do it.

The major issue I faced was that the mini just could not find either wi-fi or Bluetooth devices, even Apple devices, automatically. This makes absolutely no sense. There is nothing special about my wi-fi network and, regardless, the mini ought to have found the Bluetooth keyboard and mouse immediately. Does everyone who buys a Mac have wired devices?

I connected the mini to my network via Ethernet and it found my wi-fi network but it did not find either the Apple wireless keyboard or the Apple wireless mouse. I had to plug in a wired mouse and then use that to drive selection of the wireless mouse and keyboard.

Finder did not find my iPhone or iPad over the wireless network and I had to plug each of these in first before a wireless connection worked.

The TV app could not connect to my Apple tv and I spent 25 minutes on the phone to a really smart Apple advisor to fix it. The solution was far from obvious and involved authorizing the mini through the Music app (turns out you can do it in the TV app) and multiple restarts to make media sharing work.

Finally, I had, coincidentally, purchased a new inkjet printer, and the mini did not find that over wireless until I connected it by cable first.

Time Machine migration doesn’t bring everything across. I happen to like and use Launchpad and the layout of apps on the screen did not migrate. As I have over 120 apps it took some time to rearrange everything.

A couple of apps did not work. In one case I realized that I just needed to replace the Intel version with the version for Apple Silicon but in another case I had to buy a new copy as I couldn’t find my 5 year old authorization key (does everyone keep those handy?). One app still does not work 100% and I’m talking to the vendor.

A few quirks remain. Sometimes, when the machine wakes from sleep all the windows have been shrunk to smaller sizes and moved to the bottom left corner.

The new System Preferences is a masterpiece of obscurantism. I spent hours working my way through to find settings that needed to be reset from default but I’ll get used to the new layout in time (even the Apple advisor asked me to search for some settings as he didn’t know where they were). Also, whoever designed and built Focus never heard that Apple once boasted ‘it just works’.

Was it worth it? The mini is certainly faster at installs and upgrades. The camera on the Studio display is much better. A couple of apps that kept telling me I had to migrate to Ventura are happy. But that’s about it. I don’t think there’s anything in Ventura that makes my life easier or better than with Big Sur. (Hey, look I can move the cursor from the Studio display across to my MacBook Air, whoopee!) And a few things make life harder, e.g., switching to a different DNS but that’s pretty technical. It does seem that apps are slower to load/open with Ventura and external drives are much slower to mount. I hope I don’t need to spend this amount of money again for many, many years.

I my view, at least some of what you describe could be explained by complications of migrating from (1) Intel to Apple Silicon, (2) from an older macOS to current Apple Silicon macOS, or (3) “cruft” from an installation in use for 6-8 years. Any one of these factors might cause problems.

You didn’t specify what exactly you migrated/what settings you used. I’m guessing you might have gone with default settings and migrated everything?

When I got an M1 MBP, I came to the decision to not migrate anything because of the potential for issues transitioning to Apple Silicon. I found a of people didn’t recommend this. Obviously Intel only apps don’t work on Apple Silicon, but so too the contents of System and user Libraries have changed dramatically in some areas. Migration assistant should handle this, but even before Apple Silicon people reported problems in some cases.

Many people successfully “migrate” between Macs of various ages, but sometimes the process goes awry. The three factors above are likely to increase the chances of problems.

Enjoy your new setup. I’m a little envious, but will probably have the same setup in a few months. Then I’ll be in the same boat considering transitioning from 2018 Mac mini. I might just transfer my documents manually.

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I had a wired Apple keyboard at first, then I went with a Logitech ergonomic keyboard and MX Master 2 mouse. I never experienced any problems getting the Logis connected, but I did start with a wired keybaord…

Why did you “have” to go with the Apple monitor? I went with a 34" Dell and a 44" LG, both of which work absolutely brilliantly with my Mac mini M1 and, over a docking station, my company MacBook Air M1 and the ThinkPad.

I did have problems with the wireless, but that is because I have the Mac plugged into Ethernet and the phone and tablet on Wi-Fi on a separate VLAN, Apple doesn’t like this configuration - to be fair, neither do Samsung and Microsoft. But it did work fine when I added the Mac to Wi-Fi as well as Ethernet. It just uses Wi-Fi for talking to the iPad.

I have an HP OfficeJet Pro printer and just pointed it at the IP address of the printer and it installed it with no problems.

I’ve not experienced the problems with the window sizes or applications. But it was a clean install. I think @Saguaro is probably right, migrating settings from such an old system probably cause more problems than it solves. I’d have copied the data over and made a fresh start.

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Every machine I set up I eventually do a clean install on. PC, phone, tablet etc.

I usually use any migration assistant first to get me up and running. But as all my data is cloud, and apps I can download and install quickly, I then later wipe it and setup as a new device. Gives me an opportunity to get rid of cruft and apps I no longer use.

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Actually, I rebuilt the iMac from scratch less than a year ago so there was little debris from history. I only encountered one Intel to Silicon issue and I should have realized it would happen before it did.
Yes, I took the Time Machine migration option when the Mac mini started up.

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The Asus 27" monitor was a huge disappointment. It arrived before the mini was delivered and I attached it to my MacBook Air which is a new M1 machine running Ventura. It did the basic display job adequately but devices connected to the USB ports on the screen simply would not show up on the screen. The Asus website provides a firmware upgrade which is supposed to solve this but (a) the description was obviously translated from another language and made little sense, (b) included .bin files which are not executables, and (c) required that you run a .exe file from a connected Windows laptop. Finally, the sound quality was dreadful and I listen to a lot of podcasts etc through the desktop speakers (I also have high end loudspeakers attached for music). So that was that.
I did not want anything bigger than 27" and this was the most widely recommended screen. A Dell was also well recommended but it has no speakers.
I know that the Studio is absurdly expensive but it should last many many years (perhaps more than I will!) and if there were problems between it and the mini I knew would not have to deal with finger pointing between manufacturers.

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Yes, I also have much in iCloud: music, photos, mail, calendar, etc. But I prefer to keep documents and personal records in encrypted drives locally. None of this was a problem for migrating. The main frustration was the need to go through wired connections before the wireless/Bluetooth would kick in.

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Think that’s an iMac - Mac Mini difference.

From setting up a few Intel Mac Minis and iMacs years ago, the wireless keyboards/mice were only already paired if they came in the box like with the iMac. Guess this is still the case.

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Just thinking, didn’t those iMacs come with HDMI in? Couldn’t that be used as a display for the Mac mini?

Yes, HDMI works nicely for display purposes but I don’t think it gives the mini access to the USB ports of the display. I could be wrong there as I only tested it with the Asus and nothing made its ports respond.

No, just display, but on the money saved on a new display, you could have bought a decent Thunderbolt dock…

You are quite right, however, I have a thing about a clear desk with no visible cables. It turns out this is an expensive obsession.