Facebook Is Down 10-4-21 - What to do about it

Facebook is down…here is what you can do about it

Creative email from the Songwriters Association of Washington DC (SAW) to members today:

Well Facebook and Instagram are down and everyone is SURE it has NOTHING TO DO with the whistleblower reports that they have been manipulating all of us with negativity. [Whistleblower says Facebook put profit before reining in hate speech | Reuters]

What can you do about it? Well, stop engaging in the onslaught of negativity that social media encourages and then…write a song (and don’t go negative) and enter it in the Mid Atlantic Song Contest (we even have a category for social justice songs called “freedom songs” and a video category this year). The deadline to enter is October 15 at midnight EST.



Facebook has been down for me for about 3 years. I have DNS blacklisted everything Facepalm related, including the WhatsTF messenger and Instagratification, so a normal day for me.

Good idea though, be positive and spread positivity.


Easy: join the TWiT.community and Club TWiT. But this is preaching to the choir, I suppose.

On second thought I shudder to think of TWiT.community having two billion active users. Wonder what @Leo would do? I suppose he’d be on that yacht, cruising the seven seas, broadcasting via the ubiquitous Starlink network. :slight_smile:


Interesting to compare the speed FB investigated root cause and published info on yesterday’s outage vs their transparency and inaction on possible harms caused by their services.

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It was Steve Gibson’s Pet Peeve: BGP!

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I’ve read it was complicated by a lack of out-of-band access and a building access system that relied on the IS that was down to work :man_facepalming:t2:


Yes, that made me laugh as well. Our system is down, so we can’t get in the building to get it working again!

And, because it was a BGP screw-up, they also couldn’t remote in, because the system had removed itself from the Internet.

Maybe it was the Facebook AI and it watched the 60 Minutes interview with the whistleblower and was getting nervous, someone would turn it off…


Yeah the whole Building locking people out because of BGP was what surprised me. I’m not surprised they are key card access to the building but rather surprised that there isn’t a fail safe in place for events such as this.

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When it comes to building physical security… do you fail open or fail closed?

Physical keys.

Our office has key card access. We still have a handful of physical keys, just in case.

This is exactly what I was thinking with my comment @PHolder Yes I want the building to fail secure but Facebook has it’s own security staff, so there should be no reason these trusted individuals can’t have physical keeps kept inside a combination safe (Not connected to the internet) where they can be retrieved in the event that systems go down and staff need access to areas of the building to resolve the issue.

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It is called devops, you just do what you want, no testing and no disaster recovery plans, if it breaks, you work out why, fix it and move on…

Meanwhile, real developers have thorough testing, test plans that cover all known scenarios and it is thoroughly tested, before going live.

In addition, there are fallback plans, for when the technology stops working.

That was one of the key things, when I started working as a programmer, part of your job was to document the manual fallback procedures, so that the business could keep running, if your system broke.

Today, not so much…


I didn’t hear about that, quite surprising!

I’ve architected my company’s stack with isolation as a key pillar. We’d never tie in physical security with our ops infrastructure, for example. In fact, our corporate business infrastructure is completely separate from our ops infrastructure.

It’s more expensive, more overhead for my guys, and our sales guys hate us for it, but it’s allowed us to stand out as a service provider in this era of ransomware and such threats. I love bringing stories like this to meetings where management forgets why we do things this way.

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Yeah, I was quite surprised that they couldn’t gain physical access to remediate the issue, without “sawzalls”.

I just wondered what today’s impact of Facebook is. I don’t mean which type of impact it has on democracy, society, or young people, but rather: what’s its economic footprint?

In other words: if Facebook went away for, say, a full year: which statistics would be affected by how much?

GDP impact of 1% in the US? Higher? Lower? Around the world? Maybe not necessarily transactions over Facebook, but rather supporting the spinning of the consumerist wheel (loving to consume myself, not meant as a high horse comment). Certainly, advertisers would not know what to do with their money. Mass media might flourish. Or twenty new start-ups might take Facebook’s place.

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