TWIT 749: At Least She Double Bagged It

I agree @Leo. As a Ring user, I’ve spent the last few days reading articles from Buzzfeed, Vice, Wirecutter etc. thinking I might have to get rid. But there is nothing in any of the articles that is specific to Ring.

I’ve got direct experience of Foscam (:scream:), Nest, Logi Circle, TP-Link, IKEA and Eufy. None of them has 2FA and user management capabilities like Ring has.

Worth listening to this weeks Rocket and Stacey On IoT…you couldn’t get more opposing views. ‘Ring are selling the data or openly giving your data to the cops’ was one statement made.

There was a big opportunity here to get some good messages out on how to secure your tech. This has been lost in this anti-Amazon/Ring/police/suburbia/surveillance/middle classes/neighbourhood watch narrative IMO.

Well it still sends the events to the cloud. And if I do a Live View, it will store that in the cloud too I think. I don’t think even a Live View goes DIRECT to the camera, it feels to me like the Amazon cloud is always wedged in the middle. It’s particularly galling in a way to see the meta data and be told to pay up to view the event. If they are indeed receiving every stream anyway, then I feel like they could afford to offer at least 24 hours of access to storage included in the price of the device.

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Oh yeah, obvious really, no storage in the doorbell. I’ve never used it with no subscription.

Just saw this Engadget article:


basically claiming that Ring’s claims of the effectiveness of it’s cameras may well be overblown. Or it could all be duck and cover by the cops… who even knows?