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I listened to this episode live (I’ll rewatch it VOD another day) and I followed in Andy’s footsteps: I did my taxes during the show. It was good background sound
This year I’m getting the biggest return of my entire life: $10K. I dedicate a portion of that to Andy for giving me the kick in the pants to do my taxes (although I really enjoy doing my taxes. It’s kind of fun)
I loved how Andy joked about Jason talking for 45 minutes giving him time to do his taxes. I hope he was actually doing it and it wasn’t just a joke.
I did my taxes weeks ago. I was more concerned about 3rd party interference with the IRS and wanted to make sure I got my refund.
There’s two sides to every story… right? This also means you’ve overpaid your taxes all year, loaning that money to the government, only to get to wait 6 weeks for them to give it back to you … 
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Someme at work said that to me too. But this year my tax returns were huge because I put a loooot of money into my RRSP and I get to deduct taxes because I maintain a home office.
I usually put about 10K into my rrsp but this year I put 26K because I wanna buy a house in the relatively near future so I’m getting very serious about it.
This past year I got serious about having my money work for me and I even have a finance guy investing my money into the markets. I also made a lot more money this year because the gov’t owed us a lot of money in back pay for having an out of date collective agreement.
But you’re not wrong: getting a lot of money back does mean the government borrowed too much money from me during the year usually
I recently ran across an associate who said they avoided the Artificial Intelligences because of the huge electricity expense associated with using them. This was a surprise to me. Have other people heard this? Is avoiding AIs a big thing, or are few thinking about it? #WhatWouldGretaSay
Does any of Apple’s reluctance to rapidly deploy AIs have to do with their energy cost, or is it all about problems with the performance of the services?
Does anyone know how Apple offsets any energy cost with their own in-house computation and with ChatGPT’s energy cost? Do they have alternative energy powering all of their AI services (including ChatGPT)?
One of the reasons I switched from a Ryzen 7 desktop PC to a Mac mini M1 was that it had the same performance for photo editing, but used a fraction of the electricity.
Prices here increased around 60% at the beginning of the Russian invasion of the Ukraine, going up to over 45c/KwH.
The electricity requirements for AI is Jenseits von gut und böse, as they say in Germany.
Isn’t their goal to push as much of it to the end devices as possible?
That is their goal. But I suspect Mr. Bones was referring to the fact that Apple is also building data centers with M-chips when they need to defer to cloud Siri. Although I’m not really sure how any of that works. the M-chips are definitely not as power hungry as a farm full of nvidia GPUs
Eventually yes. I guess Apple’s AI stuff is fine for rewriting paragraphs and e-mail summaries. OTOH, I’ve found Apple AI’s “Hey, Siri” answers to questions is spectacularly useless. I’ve gotten in the habit of just tacking “ask chatgpt” to anything I ask of Apple Intelligence. Actually, I usually avoid the Siri interface completely and go directly to ChatGPT or to Grok.
Since Apple is deferring queries to ChatGPT, I thought that Apple might feel thenselves accountable for the electric power for those queries. The next time I’m in an Apple Store, I will ask the floor staff that question.
@big_D Wow. Average price in the US is 15¢ per KwH. In my area, it’s 14¢ per KwH. I wouldn’t have presumed power cost would be a reason anyone would move to a Mac.
It is one of the reasons why we build houses with good insulation, so we don’t need AC in summer or to heat as much in the winter.
Over the lifetime of the house (100+ years), it pays for itself.
We had temperatures over 42C (107F), but the house interior remained in the mid 20sC (mid 70sF) for most of the period, only the last 2 days got over 30C (86F) inside, with no AC. The house is about 110 years old, so relatively new for small town Germany, unless you move to one of the Siedlungen (housing estate). The town dates from around 800AD, although the first records are a bit later, it celebrated 1000 years towards the end of the 90s, and many of the houses are 17th to 19th century, in the centre of town, the town has spread outwards and newer houses have spring up on estates on the outskirts.
I know a few people who do have AC, but they usually run it for an hour or so before they go to bed, so the bedroom is cooler.
I don’t think I’ll play RollerCoaster Tycon on Apple Arcade; but I loooove OpenRCT2 which I play all the time in Windows & macOS
Maybe I’ll try it on iPad…
EDIT: I’ve been thinking about this all day but I totally want to play RollerCoaster Tycoon on my iPad!!! Although I don’t wanna pay for it so I’m glad it’s coming to Apple Arcade (I’m on family plan where my dad has Apple Arcade)
interest free as well
I avoid using AI mainly for that reason… and also because I don’t find the results very interesting. I’ve used it precisely once, to get a transcript of a 2019 podcast where I needed to trace the context of a throwaway remark made by one of the hosts.
I pay close attention to what other people are doing with it, but don’t see any reason I should contribute to its massive energy consumption in its current state.
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