Lastpass gave away too much in their free version so probably lost paying subscribers.
Mobile integration used to be a premium feature but it became free, so for most people there wasn’t enough features to entice them to pay for it. I only recently started paying for it but that was more out of guilt than the need for premium features.
Thanks. Useful feedback.
For me, LastPass has always been a no-brainer, it was free and did all I wanted. I put up with the hit and miss autofill on Android. So now I’ll check out all the competitors and pay for one. Bitwarden is already more reliable with autofill for me.
As @JasonHowell mentioned on AAA my only issue is all the family I’ve convinced to use LastPass over the years who I know definitely won’t be interested in paying a subscription. Will prob move them back to browser password management.
I agree. I’ve been a LP user since really before browsers did PW management. Overtime, they started adding more value to the free product. I only recently paid for a premium subscription, mainly out of guilt, and due to getting a Black Friday special. But, I’d also been considering it for some time. I was afraid this was going to happen when I saw that Elliot Management had invested in LogMeIn. They are known to screw things up. EMC sold themselves to Dell to be rid of them. Citrix sold the GoTo products to LogMeIn for the same reason. I’m just glad they aren’t dumping the LP product.
I will continue to be a LP user. I see no reason to change at this point.
I should also note that while I fully commend LP for their previous support of TWiT, my decision to use the product is not predicated on that. I’ve been using them for longer than I heard of them on TWiT.
Can 1Password and LastPass co-exist on multiple entry points such as Apple mobile, Apple Desktop, Windows Desktop, Safari, FireFox, and Edge? Personally rarely use Chrome and have no Android. My Apple cohorts sure like 1Password. I am sure liking the M1 Apple fingerprint Safari integration and love facial recognition on the iPhone. Things just go off track when I have need to use my Windows machine.
Yes. They have browser add-ins and iOS/Android apps which integrate with the OS autofill functionality, so all environments are covered. They also have native desktop apps, but I don’t see the point for those really as you’re normally in the browser and can access your vault from there. LastPass support biometrics, the others probably do too.
the free tier is still there, but not if you want to work between mobile and desktop, i fear that many will resort to cloning their accounts, 1 for each free device tier, or start sharing passwords over other apps to devices in plain text, thats bad for safe password hygiene in general.
i really dont like this new businessmodel, feels like a step back in time, with endusers having multiple managers again and lots of conflicting passwords.
Updated features in 1Password for Big Sur, Apple Watch, and Touch ID sure seem to be enough incentive. 1Password on MacRumors
I’ve used the free tier for a couple of years now - perhaps our Chief Twit @Leo can organise a discount for Twits moving from free to paid?
Are there any other services offering the notes / passport / insurance details storage that LP does?
Happy to pay but been putting up with sub par performance on password filling cross platform for a while because it was free. Maybe time to look for a better performing paid app?? Any suggestions?
I guess its a Catch-22. If they wouldn’t give things away perhaps they would have the money to sponsor the Twit Studios. 1Password doesn’t have a free tier either. Dashlane does and I have tried that and the interface is pretty nice.
Hard to complain about FREE. That would be like complaining to someone that just gave you a $10 bill just to be nice why it wasn’t a $20.
I can understand how this is annoying but the passion shows that you all like it so don’t you think it would be worth paying for something you value that much?
I liked it fine at $1/mo and was a paying member. I don’t like it enough for $3/mo, and so I am a free member. Luckily for me I am not the target audience for this change, and I won’t be affected because I only use it on my desktop machine(s). If they could come up with a scaled back version that supported 2FA and few other features for $1/mo, I’d become a paying member once again.
c’t magazine in Germany coincidentally did a review of two dozen password services in the current issue (came out last Friday).
LastPass gets marked down for its security breaches in the past - I think that is a little unfair, no unencrypted data was lost and they responded quickly, also telling people to change their master passwords.
But it also got marked down as the blabbiest service of those reviewed - it uses 4 distinct tracking services (based on the analysis of their Android app), Twilig Segment, Firebase / Google Crashlytics, mixpanel, and Apps Flyer . Bitwarden faired better, only using one tracker, Microsoft VisualStudio App Center.
1Password came off top, with 0 trackers built into their apps, along with KeePass2-Android, mSecure, PasswdSafe, SaferPass and SecureSafe.
It should be noted that none of the services, including LastPass passed any password or account information to the trackers.
The services they compared were:
1Password
Avira Password Manager
Bitwarden
Cyclonis Password Manager
Dashlane
Enpass
eWallet
F-Secure ID Protection
Kaspersky Password Manager
Keepass (and associated apps for Android and iOS)
KeepassXC
Keeper
LastPass
mSecure
NordPass
Password Depot
Password Safe
Roboform
SafeInCloud
SaferPass
SecureSafe
Steganos Passwort-Manager
Sticky Password
Trend Micro Password Manager
TrueKey
Interestingly, all of the password safes from anti-virus manufacturers used external app tracking services.
I guess I’m a bit of a hypocrite. After saying that I was sticking with LastPass, I decided to try BitWarden. So far, I’m liking it better than LastPass. The GUI is cleaner, and works much better on my phone. Migration was a breeze.
There are definitely things I like that LastPass does better, but it appears that BitWarden is a great alternative.
Same here. Took no time at all to export to CSV and import into Bitwarden. It says to check your data, especially if you use the secure notes and stuff as some fields may not come across.
But IMO the actually app on my phone is better for being simpler. More reliable at autofill. I also used the LastPass Authenticator app for 2FA. I’ve moved that to Microsoft for now until I’ve decided what I’m doing.
I’ve used LastPass for a number of years, then I switched to Bitwarden, I think the interface is cleaner and I had less problems filling forms with Bitwarden, I highly recommend it.
One issue I had with Bitwarden is password sharing between accounts, for the free tier you can share with one family member but it’s very clunky.
Yep. They used to charge for syncing your vault between devices which prompted me to pay for it long ago, then they introduced the new free tier and made that a free feature. The only thing the subscription got me was better support, which I never needed or used, so I cancelled the subscription. I paid for a year because they were offering a discount at $27. I figure that’s worth all the usage I’ve gotten out of the free tier all these years. I also didn’t want to have to deal with finding something to switch to right now. I may give BitWarden a test since so many have recommended it.
That’s exactly the same as me. I used to pay for it until the free tier did everything I needed. I’ve upgraded to a paid subscription. Which I’m happy to do to be honest. I don’t really feel the need to switch to another password manager at this time.
I think it’s a pretty fair price for all the use I get out of it. It does give me pause, since they’ve been sold to an equity firm, at what else they might take away to goose subscription numbers, or create more tiers to get you to pay more. I do like the idea of supporting an open source project like Bitwarden, though versus an equity firm whose ultimate goal is to extract as much value as possible. I was hesitant about LastPass when they were acquired by LogMeIn as they ruined Hamachi and their own remote support products ease of use in favor of increasing subscriptions, but they seemed to be pretty good stewards of the product. I think that’s when device syncing became free initially.
I am lately becoming fond of paying for services that I use that are useful, if for no other reason than to support them. After years of being a free LastPass user, I took advantage of a Black Friday deal to purchase a sub. However, with the changes they are making, I’m not sure how I want to move forward. I’ve already had a sour taste in my mouth with LogMeIn. I was a free user of that product when they announced, with pretty much no notice, that the free service was going away. Not that I objected to paying for the product, but the way they did left a sour taste with me, so I looked at other products. It just so happened GoToMyPC offered a deal for LogMeIn free users that made using that service more desirable. I continued to use that service until they were sold to LogMeIn. At that point, they jacked the price I was paying 3x for access to a single computer. Fortunately, that was about the time RemotePC started advertising on the Tech Guy so I took advantage of the “Leo” special. I’m now in my third year of subscription (2nd with the regular price) and happy with the product.
So, since everyone was talking about it, I signed up for BitWarden and migrated to it. So far, I’m happy with it.
