TWIT 931: Pork Pie For Your Ears

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What are your thoughts about today’s show? We’d love to hear from you!

On the topic of micromobility: my dad and I saw SARIT at the Canadian International (Toronto) Autoshow, they make an electric 1-seater 3-wheeled viechle.

Currently I do around 30KM a week walking, another 80KM or so on the bicycle and around 15KM in the car.

We have a 2014 diesel and I don’t see us replacing it any time soon, simple economics say that we should either sell it or run it into the ground.

If it keeps up like this, I’ll probably sell it and hire a car for longer trips, or take the train and use a taxi for the few times a year, where public transport isn’t practical.

Thanks to the giant dog, I probably walk about the same each week. We have a transit I use weekdays for delivering and Liz just acquired an almost new Petrol Maserati as her commuter vehicle, goes like a batout of hell when you need it to, but comfortable and serene when you don’t, she does about 350miles per week.

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On the Reddit rebellion…
I think the issue all ties to AI. The APIs will be the way to charge for access to massive amounts of data for those who want to use that dataset for AI products.
The rebellion is mostly by moderators, not most users. sub-reddits that close, if they have a strong enough following, will just emerge by other moderators (they are all volunteers afterall).
This will only strengthen an IPO, as the external apps were probably not making up for advertising revenue.
This brings users back to the reddit apps/ads, and creates a large revenue stream in preparation for AI integration. Seems justifiable to me for now (not great, but understandable). After IPO they can work out a path to deal with external apps (Christian did say he could do it, just needed more time… seems like they could have given the developers more time)

I have not finished the episode, but I love this panel. It’s a refreshing take on the Vision Pro by people who don’t live, eat, breathe, and sleep Apple. And, most importantly, the various perspectives are well reasoned without being pedantic or condescending.

I’m not a car guy at all - but it definitely makes me want to listen to the Wheelbearings podcast if this is representative of the quality of discourse found on that show.

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With only 350 miles a week, wouldn’t an electric commuter vehicle have been better? The Maserati isn’t a bad shout, but there is no way I’d buy something like that these days, unless it was a classic.

My longest commute was around 300 miles a day, although I often worked further away from home, but then I stayed overnight in hotels or B&Bs.

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I agree, it was an interesting panel and I think they hit it with the Vision Pro, in its current form, it isn’t something people will wear with their families or out and about. This is very much an alone at home or a specialised work environment device in the current iteration, and way too expensive for most people - but still way cheaper than getting a BMW with a depth perceptive HUD… And, no, I am not suggesting that people use it in a car as a substitute for a built-in HUD system. :rofl:

I get where you are heading, but those miles fluctuate between maybe 150 and 600 plus she has 6 sites to go between on a random basis, in all weather’s, usually with a boot full of assorted stuff from papers to furniture. We are in rural Shropshire, not all which has cell phone coverage let alone charge points. A lot of the trips are reactive rather than proactive. She tried the new BMW EV SUV, but found it looking and feeling to fragile and ‘binged out’ as well as very different to drive. The Levante in comparison is a thing of style and beauty and when push the throttle oh my does that Ferrari designed V6 sing!

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I’m still in a small petrol SUV, which I will keep until it’s scrapped I think. The Guardian did publish a second opinion piece in response to Rowan Atkinson, covering many of the points that @samabuelsamid raised.

Good point that public charging will become more and more important as BEVs start to filter down to the second-hand car market, where owners may not have a garage or drive, so can’t charge at home.

Our local council has rolled out chargers in all the towns near us, but they’re all 22kW, so I can’t see they are very useful. Never see them used, the odd PHEV maybe topping up a small 30-mile range battery, but not a BEV.

Fact check: why Rowan Atkinson is wrong about electric vehicles | Electric, hybrid and low-emission cars | The Guardian

We looked at both hybrids and full EVs, the hybrids only seem to give relatively moderate increase in fuel economy and the full EV SUV were very different to drive due to braking reclamation.

Liz wanted something special and drove a bunch of stuff, hated the MachE mustang I fake, felf very cheap inside (sorry @Leo)

I like the idea of these things but I would be scared to share the roads around here with all of the giant SUV’s that people drive at high speed. I think I would feel safer on my bicycle, where the expectations are very different about interacting with other vehicles.

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You would have to hope that the self drive programmers put the value of a human cyclist above that of a vehicle!

There are some programmers I wouldn’t trust with decision of what to hit when something has to be the target

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I think you’d be allowed to drive them in the bike lane. At least they’re built to be compliant with the rules in Ontario as far as I remember. But I agree with you.

Do it, I’m listening to the latest wheelbearings now while I wait to my daughter up from school