# TWIG 677: Clemson Salmon **URL:** \ **Category:** This Week In Google\ **Tags:** episode\ **Created:** [August 18, 2022, 4:01am UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/twig-677-clemson-salmon/12854 "2022-08-18T04:01:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Leo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/www.twit.community/leo/32/16203_2.png) [@Leo](https://www.twit.community/u/Leo)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2022, 4:01am UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/twig-677-clemson-salmon/12854/1 "2022-08-18T04:01:41Z")
Beep boop - this is a robot. A new show has been posted to TWiT… > **[Clemson Salmon | TWiT.TV](https://twit.tv/shows/this-week-in-google/episodes/677)** > > Google launches Android 13, rolling out now to Pixel phones.Android 13 changelog: A deep dive by Mishaal Rahman.Pixel 6 series can’t go back to Android 12 after updating to Android… What are your thoughts about today’s show? We’d love to hear from you! ---
**Author:** ![big\_D](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/www.twit.community/big_d/32/1023_2.png) [@big\_D](https://www.twit.community/u/big_D)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2022, 10:38am UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/twig-677-clemson-salmon/12854/2 "2022-08-20T10:38:29Z")
Regarding the spatial sound in Apple Music, I thought it was just marketing hype, but I got a pair of AirPods Pro and I tried it out, the results were mixed, a lot of stuff is just remixed and just pushed the stage out in front of the listener, which is actually quite effective. But some tracks, like Billie Eilish‘s latest album, make better use of it. It centres the Play-back on the device, which means, if you turn away from the device, the sound stage stays on the device, so it really feels like you are turning away from the stage, the same when moving away from the device, technically very impressive, but probably not that practical, if you are doing house work and have the phone laying on a worktop somewhere. You can also visualise how the instruments and singer are spread across the stage or even behind you. ---
**Author:** ![Jamze](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/www.twit.community/jamze/32/3151_2.png) [@Jamze](https://www.twit.community/u/Jamze)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2022, 11:02am UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/twig-677-clemson-salmon/12854/3 "2022-08-20T11:02:02Z")
I’m still confused why Apple advertise their headphones as being capable of ‘spatial sound’. It’s just binaural audio, any headphones are capable of doing it. Yes they add head tracking, but as you say, this is pretty pointless for music when the phone is in your back pocket or on the table somewhere. Or am I mistaken and the headphones themselves are taking a stereo source and creating ‘fake’ spatial using software? Don’t think so, 'cos they advertise spatial tracks on Apple Music. ---
**Author:** ![big\_D](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/www.twit.community/big_d/32/1023_2.png) [@big\_D](https://www.twit.community/u/big_D)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2022, 1:14pm UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/twig-677-clemson-salmon/12854/4 "2022-08-20T13:14:40Z")
They are creating a spatial effect, like gaming or film headphones that offer Dolby Surround effects, I would say. You certainly don’t get the same effect with normal headphones on an iPhone, I have a pair of high end Sony‘s and Samsung Galaxy Buds + and you don’t get the same effect, when listening to the music, there is a world of difference. I’m guessing they use software and additional drivers to direct the sound to trick the ear into thinking it is coming from different directions. However they achieve it, it is very impressive, I’d put it up there with the first time in went into an electronics shop and had a demo of Dolby Surround Sound in a Test room. I think, for watching films on an iPhone or iPad, it would be great, but I listen to music on the move and the effect gets lost or is distracting, and I have a home cinema setup for film anyway, so wouldn’t watch film on such a small screen. ---
**Author:** ![PHolder](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/www.twit.community/pholder/32/2439_2.png) [@PHolder](https://www.twit.community/u/PHolder)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2022, 3:26pm UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/twig-677-clemson-salmon/12854/5 "2022-08-20T15:26:40Z")
> [@big\_D](#): > > have the phone laying on a worktop somewhere Thinking back to antenna gate and how “you’re not holding it right”: You’re not ‘not holding it’ right. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Jamze](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/www.twit.community/jamze/32/3151_2.png) [@Jamze](https://www.twit.community/u/Jamze)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2022, 7:08pm UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/twig-677-clemson-salmon/12854/6 "2022-08-20T19:08:59Z")
> [@big\_D](#): > > They are creating a spatial effect, like gaming or film headphones that offer Dolby Surround effects, I would say. You certainly don’t get the same effect with normal headphones on an iPhone, I have a pair of high end Sony‘s and Samsung Galaxy Buds + and you don’t get the same effect, when listening to the music, there is a world of difference. Hmmm not convinced. There’s a setting in Apple Music I think to force spatial on if you don’t have Apple headphones. Their headphones toggle this setting on/off automatically. ---
**Author:** ![big\_D](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/www.twit.community/big_d/32/1023_2.png) [@big\_D](https://www.twit.community/u/big_D)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 5:51am UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/twig-677-clemson-salmon/12854/7 "2022-08-21T05:51:25Z")
The rubber ducky USB key is a recognised, legitimate part of pentesting. Criminals leave prepared USB sticks in the car park and pen testers do the same, the same as they use phishing emails, with the knowledge and permission of the customer‘s liaison. ---
**Author:** ![big\_D](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/www.twit.community/big_d/32/1023_2.png) [@big\_D](https://www.twit.community/u/big_D)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2022, 2:36pm UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/twig-677-clemson-salmon/12854/8 "2022-08-22T14:36:21Z")
Timestamps: 00:00:00 Pre-roll ads & overview 00:01:32 Introduction to show & guests 00:03:50 Android 13 availability for Pixel handsets 00:04:20 Android 13 changelog 00:04:52 No going back to Android 12 from 13 00:05:20 Look at Android 13 changes (00:06:28 Tim Cook troll) 00:12:19 Spatial Audio 00:16:40 Screen resolution settings & tablets 00:17:57 Pixel 7 & 7 Pro pass through FCC 00:19:40 Explanation behind no-rollback from 13 00:30:30 EV tax credits 00:40:00 Residential tax breaks for upgrades, new IRS agents & medication etc. 00:46:24 Mattress Mack (00:51:50 end of Better Call Saul) 00:52:58 Secureworks ad 00:58:37 Nielsen ratings for Football on Amazon and general ratings discussion 01:12:37 Meta adds E2E encryption to Messenger by default 01:16:43 pre-ad general discussion 01:16:55 NOMAD Ad 01:21:08 Rubber Ducky USB pentest tool 01:26:10 Jailbreak for John Deere tractors 01:33:25 Chokepoint Capitalism - Rebecca Giblin & Corey Doctorow 01:34:00 Hearing aids over the counter 01:41:33 Oracle auditing TikTok algorithms 01:45:30 Twillio hack of Signal SMS authentication records 01:48:25 Adam Neumann gets new backing (precursor discussion of We Crashed) 01:53:22 Ringtone interpretive dance 01:54:56 Kindergarten teacher talks to politician 01:56:22 Music Street 01:57:30 Quiet Quitting 01:58:10 Google Change Log - Official Android 13 statue - Google Photos Archive now named “hidden” - Google Chrome one-click default browser in Windows 11. - (Twillio attack (Signal SMS authentication) was aimed at reporters) - Google Meet shows how noisy your office is - Google killing Google Cloud IoT Core 02:06:28 Picks of the week 02:06:30 Stacey’s Pick - Mimi Health hearing test 02:11:20 Australian Court say Google is not a publisher 02:11:55 Jeff’s Pick - Boox 02:13:00 Jeff should I vote for Twitter sale? 02:14:25 Jeff’s history of media in 45 minutes 02:18:23 Ant’s pick - Clemson wallpaper settings in Android 13 02:19:30 Lisa Carney & Photoshop World 02:20:20 Post-show roundup & outro ---
**Author:** ![Leo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/www.twit.community/leo/32/16203_2.png) [@Leo](https://www.twit.community/u/Leo)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2022, 9:45pm UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/twig-677-clemson-salmon/12854/9 "2022-08-22T21:45:15Z")
Yay!!! Thanks so much!