# TWIG 589: 46 States and Guam

**URL:** https://www.twit.community/t/twig-589-46-states-and-guam/8747
**Category:** This Week In Google
**Tags:** episode
**Created:** [December 10, 2020, 7:31am UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/twig-589-46-states-and-guam/8747 "2020-12-10T07:31:27Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Leo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/www.twit.community/leo/32/16203_2.png) [@Leo](https://www.twit.community/u/Leo)
#### Post date: [December 10, 2020, 7:31am UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/twig-589-46-states-and-guam/8747/1 "2020-12-10T07:31:27Z")

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Beep boop - this is a robot. A new show has been posted to TWiT…

> **[46 States and Guam | TWiT.TV](https://twit.tv/shows/this-week-in-google/episodes/589)**
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> Facebook antitrust charges, Google search in 2020, Election ad ban

What are your thoughts about today’s show? We’d love to hear from you!

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### Author: ![andrewmelder](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/www.twit.community/andrewmelder/32/11086_2.png) [@andrewmelder](https://www.twit.community/u/andrewmelder)
#### Post date: [December 10, 2020, 8:35am UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/twig-589-46-states-and-guam/8747/2 "2020-12-10T08:35:51Z")

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I’ve only just started watching the episode but the new theme music kinda freaked me out 😂

So used to the old one.

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### Author: ![ChrisKez](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/www.twit.community/chriskez/32/4417_2.png) [@ChrisKez](https://www.twit.community/u/ChrisKez)
#### Post date: [December 10, 2020, 7:07pm UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/twig-589-46-states-and-guam/8747/3 "2020-12-10T19:07:15Z")

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Yeah, that is the theme song from Triangulation. I can only hope this was an error and they’ll bring back the correct music next week.

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### Author: ![Leo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/www.twit.community/leo/32/16203_2.png) [@Leo](https://www.twit.community/u/Leo)
#### Post date: [December 10, 2020, 9:04pm UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/twig-589-46-states-and-guam/8747/4 "2020-12-10T21:04:07Z")

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It was an experiment. People wanted something more hefty. I think we’ll go back to wimpy next week.

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### Author: ![knewman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/www.twit.community/knewman/32/1153_2.png) [@knewman](https://www.twit.community/u/knewman)
#### Post date: [December 10, 2020, 11:25pm UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/twig-589-46-states-and-guam/8747/5 "2020-12-10T23:25:34Z")

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Well I liked it 🤷‍♂️

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### Author: ![Leo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/www.twit.community/leo/32/16203_2.png) [@Leo](https://www.twit.community/u/Leo)
#### Post date: [December 11, 2020, 12:04am UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/twig-589-46-states-and-guam/8747/6 "2020-12-11T00:04:18Z")

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_Poll ([view on site](https://www.twit.community/t/twig-589-46-states-and-guam/8747/6))_

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### Author: ![ChrisKez](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/www.twit.community/chriskez/32/4417_2.png) [@ChrisKez](https://www.twit.community/u/ChrisKez)
#### Post date: [December 11, 2020, 1:12am UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/twig-589-46-states-and-guam/8747/7 "2020-12-11T01:12:57Z")

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Come on man, that’s Handel! I think it sets the tone for high-minded discourse. I’m reminded of Firing Line every time TWiG starts.

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### Author: ![MacPhyle](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/www.twit.community/macphyle/32/75_2.png) [@MacPhyle](https://www.twit.community/u/MacPhyle)
#### Post date: [December 11, 2020, 1:19am UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/twig-589-46-states-and-guam/8747/8 "2020-12-11T01:19:32Z")

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> [@ChrisKez](#):
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> Handel! I think it sets the tone for high-minded discourse.

Handel is fine for a quiet discussion in a library, about fine wines… But this is about tech news. It just doesn’t seem to fit, IMHO.

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### Author: ![PHolder](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/www.twit.community/pholder/32/2439_2.png) [@PHolder](https://www.twit.community/u/PHolder)
#### Post date: [December 11, 2020, 1:59am UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/twig-589-46-states-and-guam/8747/9 "2020-12-11T01:59:42Z")

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I chose the third option 😛 I don’t have an opinion either way.

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### Author: ![Pommster](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/www.twit.community/pommster/32/530_2.png) [@Pommster](https://www.twit.community/u/Pommster)
#### Post date: [December 11, 2020, 4:48am UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/twig-589-46-states-and-guam/8747/10 "2020-12-11T04:48:49Z")

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Haha, hadn’t even noticed the change. Goes to show - my ears must just tune out!

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### Author: ![big\_D](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/www.twit.community/big_d/32/1023_2.png) [@big\_D](https://www.twit.community/u/big_D)
#### Post date: [December 11, 2020, 5:14am UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/twig-589-46-states-and-guam/8747/11 "2020-12-11T05:14:10Z")

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Jeff made me mad again… Well, there’s a surprise!

People give Facebook their information? No! They don’t have my permission to follow me or use my information, but they still gather the so-called shadow-profile on me whenever I go somewhere on the web. Under GDPR that is opt-in. Without me opting in, they aren’t allowed to gather that information, yet I have yet to see a notice from Facebook on any site I visit, asking if it is okay to collect my data!

Yes, Jeff, I know, none of the other tracking companies do it either, but two wrongs don’t make a right.

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### Author: ![carbonga](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/www.twit.community/carbonga/32/4496_2.png) [@carbonga](https://www.twit.community/u/carbonga)
#### Post date: [December 11, 2020, 4:26pm UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/twig-589-46-states-and-guam/8747/12 "2020-12-11T16:26:29Z")

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Another vote for the flutes. It had such a lovely dapper style to it that it lends much attitude to the show. It’s not so super duper breaking news serious as the drums. Worth a try, but I thought the sound was broken and the beginning. Please do bring the flutes back.

As per Facebook, it was interesting to hear Jeff become rather quiet on the anti trust initiative at the beginning. And yes: there is such a thing as being too successful and that being a problem in and by itself in a market. No, it’s not unfair or unamerican to regulate corporations based on their success. The performance of the many outweigh the power grab of the individual giant company. Broad competitiveness is what keeps an economy resilient. Not gigantic monocultures. That fosters economic illness.

Specially in the tech domain, where the US is a mature, leading supplier, fostering competitiveness instead of centralisation is a good choice of action. Otherwise, the industry will start rotting from within its few giants. In another industry where the US would have catching up to do, the story would be different, in my opinion.

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### Author: ![carbonga](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/www.twit.community/carbonga/32/4496_2.png) [@carbonga](https://www.twit.community/u/carbonga)
#### Post date: [December 11, 2020, 6:02pm UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/twig-589-46-states-and-guam/8747/13 "2020-12-11T18:02:04Z")

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It’s not wimpy vs hefty, in my mind. It’s differentiated and memorable vs slightly too generic news drums. One might not like the flutes, but most will remember the flutes.

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### Author: ![ChrisKez](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/www.twit.community/chriskez/32/4417_2.png) [@ChrisKez](https://www.twit.community/u/ChrisKez)
#### Post date: [December 12, 2020, 2:00am UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/twig-589-46-states-and-guam/8747/14 "2020-12-12T02:00:40Z")

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@Leo I like Jeff and respect him but I had to laugh when he said black Twitter is a space of language that’s built in the public but in a sense hidden in that way. No! It’s public! Twitter is a public broadcast medium built around followers and following. Facebook is primarily for private sharing with friends and family, and secondarily with local and shared interest communities. Anyone who uses both can tell you they’re different.

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### Author: ![SamGreenwood](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/www.twit.community/samgreenwood/32/16086_2.png) [@SamGreenwood](https://www.twit.community/u/SamGreenwood)
#### Post date: [December 14, 2020, 12:45am UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/twig-589-46-states-and-guam/8747/15 "2020-12-14T00:45:01Z")

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I found this: [https://www.theonion.com/facebook-announces-plan-to-break-up-u-s-government-bef-1844121902](https://www.theonion.com/facebook-announces-plan-to-break-up-u-s-government-bef-1844121902)

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### Author: ![SamGreenwood](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/www.twit.community/samgreenwood/32/16086_2.png) [@SamGreenwood](https://www.twit.community/u/SamGreenwood)
#### Post date: [December 14, 2020, 6:32am UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/twig-589-46-states-and-guam/8747/16 "2020-12-14T06:32:49Z")

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Realistically, that Huawei situation is complicated because id the Chinese government “asks” them to to something they have to do it and can’t say no because the Chinese government is an authoritarian regime. I’m not defending their actions but it’s not their choice most likely.

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### Author: ![big\_D](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/www.twit.community/big_d/32/1023_2.png) [@big\_D](https://www.twit.community/u/big_D)
#### Post date: [December 14, 2020, 8:31am UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/twig-589-46-states-and-guam/8747/17 "2020-12-14T08:31:23Z")

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The same is true of the US Government and _any company with a US presence_. If they are handed a court order, a National Security Letter (here, they can’t even inform their lawyers or the affected persons), or a warrant under the CLOUD Act (direct access to servers outside US jurisdiction).

As a non-American, it doesn’t make a blind bit of difference, whether it is the Chinese Government or the US Government pulling the strings. If I am going to be spied upon, I want to have to pay the minimum possible for the privilege!

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### Author: ![PseudorandomNoise](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/www.twit.community/pseudorandomnoise/32/1868_2.png) [@PseudorandomNoise](https://www.twit.community/u/PseudorandomNoise)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2020, 1:31pm UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/twig-589-46-states-and-guam/8747/18 "2020-12-16T13:31:09Z")

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What’s going on with the audio for this episode? I’m hearing this strange, soft fuzzing noise in the background that seems constant.

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### Author: ![SamGreenwood](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/www.twit.community/samgreenwood/32/16086_2.png) [@SamGreenwood](https://www.twit.community/u/SamGreenwood)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2020, 2:01pm UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/twig-589-46-states-and-guam/8747/19 "2020-12-16T14:01:36Z")

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I don’t remember an specific issues with this episode

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### Author: ![PseudorandomNoise](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/www.twit.community/pseudorandomnoise/32/1868_2.png) [@PseudorandomNoise](https://www.twit.community/u/PseudorandomNoise)
#### Post date: [December 16, 2020, 2:31pm UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/twig-589-46-states-and-guam/8747/20 "2020-12-16T14:31:11Z")

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It’s very faint. Honestly the only reason I noticed at all is because my podcast app, which normally can trim a lot of silence from TWiT episodes, isn’t trimming anything. #firstworldproblems

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