# SN 842: The More Things Change

**URL:** <https://www.twit.community/t/sn-842-the-more-things-change/11063>\
**Category:** Security Now\
**Tags:** episode\
**Created:** [October 27, 2021, 4:08am UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/sn-842-the-more-things-change/11063 "2021-10-27T04:08:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![Leo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/www.twit.community/leo/32/16203_2.png) [@Leo](https://www.twit.community/u/Leo)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 4:08am UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/sn-842-the-more-things-change/11063/1 "2021-10-27T04:08:21Z")

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Beep boop - this is a robot. A new show has been posted to TWiT…

> **[The More Things Change... | TWiT.TV](https://twit.tv/shows/security-now/episodes/842)**
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> Picture of the Week.A sneak peak at November 9th upcoming Win11 fixes.Leo gets his wish!!

What are your thoughts about today’s show? We’d love to hear from you!

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**Author:** ![MacPhyle](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/www.twit.community/macphyle/32/75_2.png) [@MacPhyle](https://www.twit.community/u/MacPhyle)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 1:01pm UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/sn-842-the-more-things-change/11063/2 "2021-10-27T13:01:55Z")

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Steve and @Leo were pondering what SPM stands for. Security Performance Management?  
[What is Cyber Security Performance Management?](https://www.bitsight.com/blog/what-is-cyber-security-performance-management)

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**Author:** ![Leo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/www.twit.community/leo/32/16203_2.png) [@Leo](https://www.twit.community/u/Leo)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2021, 7:49pm UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/sn-842-the-more-things-change/11063/3 "2021-10-27T19:49:34Z")

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By george you’ve got it! thanks!

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**Author:** ![big\_D](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/www.twit.community/big_d/32/1023_2.png) [@big\_D](https://www.twit.community/u/big_D)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 7:14am UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/sn-842-the-more-things-change/11063/4 "2021-10-28T07:14:52Z")

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One thing Steve missed with Dune.

The reason for swords is clearly defined. There are 2 main reasons:

1. There is a convention against using nuclear weapons in place. They have them, but they are kept for the protection of the species, in the event that an external force threatens to destroy humanity. Any great house caught using nuclear weapons would be destroyed by a combined fleet of all other major houses, regardless of any alliances that might exist.
2. They have lasguns, but they also have the protective shield, which stops projectiles and deflects melee attacks, but it has the huge disadvantage that when a lasgun blast hits it, it detonates like a nuclear explosion, killing the shielded target and the shooter. The aftermath is also hard to differentiate from a nuclear blast, see 1 above.

Therefore the imperium returned to hand-to-hand combat.

It is a tool used to make the fight scenes more gripping and suspenseful and to bring more skill to the fights, not just peng, you’re dead! It also brings the whole honour and chivalry aspects of Great House life into the forefront.

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**Author:** ![uteck](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/www.twit.community/uteck/32/901_2.png) [@uteck](https://www.twit.community/u/uteck)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2021, 6:56pm UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/sn-842-the-more-things-change/11063/5 "2021-10-28T18:56:43Z")

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I had forgotten about the interaction of shields and lazguns.  
Shad at the Shadiversity YouTube channel did a nice analysis of the fighting in Dune and how other melee weapons would work. Once you take away ranged weapons and most of the impact of weapons, it makes grappling and daggers the best option.
