# SN 769: Zoom's E2EE Design

**URL:** <https://www.twit.community/t/sn-769-zooms-e2ee-design/7009>\
**Category:** Security Now\
**Tags:** episode\
**Created:** [June 3, 2020, 4:03am UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/sn-769-zooms-e2ee-design/7009 "2020-06-03T04:03:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
**Page:** 1

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Leo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/www.twit.community/leo/32/16203_2.png) [@Leo](https://www.twit.community/u/Leo)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2020, 4:03am UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/sn-769-zooms-e2ee-design/7009/1 "2020-06-03T04:03:58Z")

</div>

Beep boop - this is a robot. A new show has been posted to TWiT…

> **[Security Now 769 Zoom’s E2EE Design | TWiT.TV](https://twit.tv/shows/security-now/episodes/769)**
>
> Zoom gets end-to-end encryption. ACLU takes Clearview to court, but maybe they should worry about their own website firstThe state of drive-by malvertising downloadsGoogle will be …

What are your thoughts about today’s show? We’d love to hear from you!

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Dr.Flay](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/www.twit.community/dr.flay/32/2643_2.png) [@Dr.Flay](https://www.twit.community/u/Dr.Flay)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2020, 3:30am UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/sn-769-zooms-e2ee-design/7009/2 "2020-06-04T03:30:09Z")

</div>

Steve’s comment about Sourceforge is not true.  
On the front of each project page is a large green download button which gets the latest default build.  
If you go into the files section to browse, you will also see a large green download button but can continue into the folders til you get to the right version, then clicking on that will give you the same DL page you get when using the green buttons.

I suspect he clicked on the button without noticing and started the download.  
Anyway, if you change the browser **from the default** so it always asks for a download location, you can’t have drive-by downloads.

BTW @Leo Lynx needs at least Windows 7 so is not suitable for ancient PCs anymore (weird)  
[https://invisible-island.net/lynx/](https://invisible-island.net/lynx/)

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Dr.Flay](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/www.twit.community/dr.flay/32/2643_2.png) [@Dr.Flay](https://www.twit.community/u/Dr.Flay)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2020, 8:01pm UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/sn-769-zooms-e2ee-design/7009/3 "2020-06-04T20:01:15Z")

</div>

> **[Zoom defenders cite legit reasons to not end-to-end encrypt free calls](https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2020/06/zoom-defenders-say-there-are-legit-reasons-to-not-encrypt-free-calls/)**
>
> Critics say everyone deserves it. Others say safety should be factored in, too.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![sawgrass](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/www.twit.community/sawgrass/32/2784_2.png) [@sawgrass](https://www.twit.community/u/sawgrass)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2020, 5:44pm UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/sn-769-zooms-e2ee-design/7009/4 "2020-06-10T17:44:23Z")

</div>

Seems baffling to me the architects of DoH wouldn’t know of the basic web server connection protocols. I cannot help but think there is more to this story and will have one of those Paul Harvey endings.