# Microsoft plans big Windows 10 UI refresh in 2021 codenamed 'Sun Valley' **URL:** \ **Category:** Windows\ **Created:** [October 28, 2020, 4:29pm UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/microsoft-plans-big-windows-10-ui-refresh-in-2021-codenamed-sun-valley/8413 "2020-10-28T16:29:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mistershipwreck](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/www.twit.community/mistershipwreck/32/19117_2.png) [@Mistershipwreck](https://www.twit.community/u/Mistershipwreck)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2020, 4:29pm UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/microsoft-plans-big-windows-10-ui-refresh-in-2021-codenamed-sun-valley/8413/1 "2020-10-28T16:29:59Z")
This should be interesting to see how Windows 10 changes with this update. What do you think? > **[Microsoft plans big Windows 10 UI refresh in 2021 codenamed ‘Sun Valley'](https://www.windowscentral.com/windows-10-sun-valley-ui-october-2021-update)** > > Microsoft is preparing a major OS update for Windows 10 in 2021 that sources say will bring with it a significant design refresh to the Windows UI. I'm told that Microsoft is planning to update many top-level user interfaces such as the Start menu,... ---
**Author:** ![knewman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/www.twit.community/knewman/32/1153_2.png) [@knewman](https://www.twit.community/u/knewman)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 5:02am UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/microsoft-plans-big-windows-10-ui-refresh-in-2021-codenamed-sun-valley/8413/2 "2020-10-29T05:02:13Z")
I think the current design has held up pretty well, but Microsoft has also implemented UI changes in a very gradual manner which I think makes it easier for people to accept. Glad to see they’re continuing to develop tablet mode. This feature doesn’t get enough love from users. > more legacy UI areas are expected to get dark mode support This always looks super kludgy to me though… ---
**Author:** ![PHolder](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/www.twit.community/pholder/32/2439_2.png) [@PHolder](https://www.twit.community/u/PHolder)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 8:25am UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/microsoft-plans-big-windows-10-ui-refresh-in-2021-codenamed-sun-valley/8413/3 "2020-10-29T08:25:24Z")
I think they need to focus on Windows X and leave a “working well enough” Windows 10 to ferment a bit. (They just updated the look of the Start menu in 20H2 after all.) It would be great if they could find a way to componentize Windows enough that you could have a stable core with a bunch of different UI choices, much as you can with Linux. (Thinking KDE, Gnome, XFCE, and others, see some pics of one distro here: [https://spins.fedoraproject.org/](https://spins.fedoraproject.org/) ) ---
**Author:** ![big\_D](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/www.twit.community/big_d/32/1023_2.png) [@big\_D](https://www.twit.community/u/big_D)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 9:18am UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/microsoft-plans-big-windows-10-ui-refresh-in-2021-codenamed-sun-valley/8413/4 "2020-10-29T09:18:51Z")
That is what Windows NT promised. A core Kernel with interchangeable graphic interfaces… Only Microsoft never got beyond Windows 3.1 and then Windows 95 interfaces. One problem is that Windows 10 is still too inconsistent. It needs a complete overhaul to make it consistent. Setting? Do I go to the new settings or the control panel? On around 40% of our machines nobody (including domain admins) have privileges to change anything through the modern settings and they have to switch to the old control panel to change anything. On one server, the administrator can’t even call up Windows Update, because they don’t have permission! They really need to get their act together and make things consistent. Whether that is “finishing” the job they started or making a fresh start is irrelevant to me, I just want a consistent experience. ---
**Author:** ![knewman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/www.twit.community/knewman/32/1153_2.png) [@knewman](https://www.twit.community/u/knewman)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 1:27am UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/microsoft-plans-big-windows-10-ui-refresh-in-2021-codenamed-sun-valley/8413/5 "2020-10-30T01:27:21Z")
> [@PHolder](#): > > focus on Windows X I would have agreed with you a year ago, but at this point I think Windows X is a total boondoggle. I think there’s some serious infighting about what it’s supposed to be. If they had positioned it as THE operating system for the Surface X and for all future devices using the SQ series chips, then maybe I’d see a future for it. But I think it’s shaping up to be another Windows S-mode situation. Hope I’m wrong! ---
**Author:** ![PHolder](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/www.twit.community/pholder/32/2439_2.png) [@PHolder](https://www.twit.community/u/PHolder)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 1:35am UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/microsoft-plans-big-windows-10-ui-refresh-in-2021-codenamed-sun-valley/8413/6 "2020-10-30T01:35:01Z")
> [@knewman](#): > > Hope I’m wrong Me too. I _really_ want a GUI based hypervisor that can run many different programs effectually in their own VM. Otherwise I might just have to switch to QubesOS.