# MBW 686: Everybody Wants to Kick a Goose

**URL:** <https://www.twit.community/t/mbw-686-everybody-wants-to-kick-a-goose/3629>\
**Category:** MacBreak Weekly\
**Tags:** episode\
**Created:** [November 6, 2019, 4:33am UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/mbw-686-everybody-wants-to-kick-a-goose/3629 "2019-11-06T04:33:12Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![PHolder](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/www.twit.community/pholder/32/2439_2.png) [@PHolder](https://www.twit.community/u/PHolder)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2019, 4:25am UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/mbw-686-everybody-wants-to-kick-a-goose/3629/21 "2019-11-08T04:25:19Z")

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> [@guyssocialweb](#):
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> dont want to come off as insensitive

We all have different circumstances in life. Maybe you’re lucky and things went your way… maybe you’re a stronger person and you suffered in silence.

I take Andy’s predicament as a comment on the future economy. All of these poor people with a specific skill set who are supporting the gig economy are gonna be up sh\*t creek sooner than later when the bottom of this house of cards crumbles. On this basis, I have great empathy and pity for many people.

> **[Opinion | Enjoy Netflix while it lasts. It can’t keep going like this forever.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/10/31/enjoy-netflix-while-it-lasts-it-cant-keep-going-like-this-forever/)**
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> As a movie lover, I’m glad that someone is willing to shell out an enormous amount of money in a largely unaccountable way.

> **[The Millennial Urban Lifestyle Is About to Get More Expensive](https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/10/say-goodbye-millennial-urban-lifestyle/599839/)**
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> As WeWork crashes and Uber bleeds cash, the consumer-tech gold rush may be coming to an end.

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**Author:** ![philodygmn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/www.twit.community/philodygmn/32/1235_2.png) [@philodygmn](https://www.twit.community/u/philodygmn)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2019, 4:49am UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/mbw-686-everybody-wants-to-kick-a-goose/3629/22 "2019-11-08T04:49:26Z")

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I can’t speak for Andy, but I for one take it much less personally from him than you seem to. He seems to me to be bringing it up as an object lesson more than anything else. I wonder whether or not your reaction has to do with your distaste for the process you’ve been through.

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**Author:** ![rolandmsmith](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/www.twit.community/rolandmsmith/32/6700_2.png) [@rolandmsmith](https://www.twit.community/u/rolandmsmith)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2019, 12:23am UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/mbw-686-everybody-wants-to-kick-a-goose/3629/23 "2019-11-09T00:23:28Z")

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I just had a chance to watch the episode and see what all the fuss was. I for one loved the conversation between Andy and Alex. I might not agree with everything they said but I appreciate their take on the subject and found the discussion as a whole refreshing. I know some people’s political feathers were ruffled but let’s look at the fact we have shows that can express varying views without censorship. We have the ability to share our views and we should celebrate that over attacking the person saying something we don’t agree with.

Lori geese are fluffy and probably deserve to be kicked since they are so mean. Just saying

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**Author:** ![philodygmn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/www.twit.community/philodygmn/32/1235_2.png) [@philodygmn](https://www.twit.community/u/philodygmn)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2019, 12:41am UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/mbw-686-everybody-wants-to-kick-a-goose/3629/24 "2019-11-09T00:41:48Z")

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> [@rolandmsmith](#):
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> we should celebrate that over attacking the person saying something we don’t agree with.

I would hate to think anything I’ve articulated in criticism of Alex’s statements and views were construed instead to be personal attack. I can say with confidence I would have responded no differently whether or not it had come from a complete stranger, other than knowing his professional background (aside from which, he _is_ still a stranger, to me). I bothered to articulate a rebuttal here because of its being a show others see as well. As important as it is to appreciate that we can exchange ideas freely, what those ideas are and the outcomes they lead us to, not least being who has access to the means of sharing theirs, I think has to remain much more important.✌

P. S. I recommend playing Untitled Goose Game and failing at it intentionally to work out any aggression you may feel toward geese; leave the animals be 🙂 Lori didn’t seem aggressive toward them at all, and I think her impulse to kick them is like wanting to squeeze Charmin, or something like that, maybe blow on a dandelion and watch the puffs fly away like feathers might if a goose was kicked, not the expression of combativeness or displeasure you seem to attach to the gesture.

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**Author:** ![rolandmsmith](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/www.twit.community/rolandmsmith/32/6700_2.png) [@rolandmsmith](https://www.twit.community/u/rolandmsmith)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2019, 12:56am UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/mbw-686-everybody-wants-to-kick-a-goose/3629/25 "2019-11-09T00:56:46Z")

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“P. S. I recommend playing Untitled Goose Game and failing at it intentionally to work out any aggression you may feel toward geese; leave the animals be 🙂 Lori didn’t seem aggressive toward them at all, and I think her impulse to kick them is like wanting to squeeze Charmin, or something like that, maybe blow on a dandelion and watch the puffs fly away like feathers might if a goose was kicked, not the expression of combativeness or displeasure you seem to attach to the gesture.”

YOUR ps made me laugh so hard I spit my coffee out 😄

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**Author:** ![philodygmn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/www.twit.community/philodygmn/32/1235_2.png) [@philodygmn](https://www.twit.community/u/philodygmn)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2019, 1:16am UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/mbw-686-everybody-wants-to-kick-a-goose/3629/26 "2019-11-09T01:16:54Z")

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I just hope that means it’s helped you feel disinclined to mess with geese 😅

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**Author:** ![rolandmsmith](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/www.twit.community/rolandmsmith/32/6700_2.png) [@rolandmsmith](https://www.twit.community/u/rolandmsmith)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2019, 2:06am UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/mbw-686-everybody-wants-to-kick-a-goose/3629/27 "2019-11-09T02:06:33Z")

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I am no longer inclined to kick a goose. I am cured. 😁

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**Author:** ![philodygmn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/www.twit.community/philodygmn/32/1235_2.png) [@philodygmn](https://www.twit.community/u/philodygmn)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2019, 2:17am UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/mbw-686-everybody-wants-to-kick-a-goose/3629/28 "2019-11-09T02:17:03Z")

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> [@rolandmsmith](#):
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> I am cured.

Whether that’s sarcasm or not, I can’t tell for sure from here, but in Lori’s defense, I don’t think she needed it. It was Alex who seemed to have it in for them, but even he just seemed to regard them as a nuisance, rather than something to attack, in any way.

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**Author:** ![baldycanuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f17d59/32.png) [@baldycanuck](https://www.twit.community/u/baldycanuck)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2019, 2:22am UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/mbw-686-everybody-wants-to-kick-a-goose/3629/29 "2019-11-09T02:22:45Z")

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Absolutely agree. And those articles (esp the opening paragraphs of the WP one)…I’m not even an urban Millennial, and I’m _shook_. House of cards, indeed.

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**Author:** ![rolandmsmith](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/www.twit.community/rolandmsmith/32/6700_2.png) [@rolandmsmith](https://www.twit.community/u/rolandmsmith)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2019, 2:30am UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/mbw-686-everybody-wants-to-kick-a-goose/3629/30 "2019-11-09T02:30:01Z")

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Not sarcasm …I was just joking about harming a small goose playing along with Lori… I hope you have a good night

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**Author:** ![philodygmn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/www.twit.community/philodygmn/32/1235_2.png) [@philodygmn](https://www.twit.community/u/philodygmn)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2019, 2:38am UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/mbw-686-everybody-wants-to-kick-a-goose/3629/31 "2019-11-09T02:38:29Z")

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Playing off her, at any rate. Take it easy. ✌

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**Author:** ![Jamze](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/www.twit.community/jamze/32/3151_2.png) [@Jamze](https://www.twit.community/u/Jamze)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2019, 1:45pm UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/mbw-686-everybody-wants-to-kick-a-goose/3629/32 "2019-11-09T13:45:05Z")

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It’s also a good counter-point to others on the panel. Many of us are financially constrained for various reasons. Andy (and Flo actually) often use their own personal situations to back this up. Fine by me.

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**Author:** ![Clayton](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/www.twit.community/clayton/32/711_2.png) [@Clayton](https://www.twit.community/u/Clayton)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2019, 2:20pm UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/mbw-686-everybody-wants-to-kick-a-goose/3629/33 "2019-11-12T14:20:11Z")

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> [@alexhoward](#):
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> As for Andy and Alex taking over the conversation

There were moments when it felt like “Statler and Waldorf phone in to talk radio…” 🤣

Edited to say no disrespect intended, just amused by what is probably a host’s nightmare: the moment when a couple of guests get the bit between their teeth and bolt off in a random direction. 😉

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