Then post from an independent and reputable source, such as Reuters, Reporters sans Frontiers (Reporters without Borders) or a similar international agency, with no Republican or Democratic agenda.
Rueters is not unbiased, not familiar with the other one.
There is a news blackout of so many stories over the last decade that it is nauseating. I have seen so many stories just flat out ignored.
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part of the problem here is the lack of concern about the possibility of mistakes or fraud if it resulted in your side winning. Some day it will work against your side. There may not be enough evidence to overturn, but the possibility surely points out that things need to be improved so that we all, though unhappy with the outcome, can be assured the process was fair and accurate.
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Do you think it is right that a guy is testifying (possibly under oath) about election fraud, and Twitter just freezes his account during that time?
Doctors who have been saying for months that masks do not work have been removed from Youtube, Facebook and Twitter for months. Now that the election is over, I am finally seeing normal news stories about it.
Hydroxychlorquine has also been a topic to get you kicked off of big tech for monthsā¦ If you promote it, you are deplatformedā¦ As usualā¦
Now, the election is overā¦ And, I read a publishing of a huge, huge study in the last weekā¦ It is very useful to treat covid afterallā¦ But, because Trump promoted it, it was deemed as hurtful to the public.
Recently, some āstudiesā finding it dangerous have been debunked. 1 was found to be made up. Many researchers have stated that no scientific journals would publish anything beneficial about the drug for months because of political pressureā¦ Where are the news stories about that? Why do these people get removed from the internet so curious people cannot find the information?
Anytime I point out bias of big tech here, everyone denies it, or the entire thread/post is deleted. But, I wonder when some of you will start to realize that it has been happening.
As for voter fraudā¦ there are hundreds of concrete stories of actual fraud. Not just opinions. You just are not seeing those stories in the media that most of you frequent.
But, dismiss it if ya want toā¦
Erm, if he was testifying under oath, he wouldnāt have time to tweet anyway, so how did he know his account was suspended during that time period, or am I missing something? Certainly in Germany you arenāt allowed to use you smartphone or a laptop whilst giving evidence.
Whether it is right or wrong for Twitter to suspend his account during that time is another matter entirely, of course.
I usually get information direct rather than the media. MHRA view here. This is still the case AFAIK despite the US election.
After fifty years of hearing people from all political parties claiming significant voter fraud and them never once being able to provide evidence, Iād like to see somebody at least hit 0.01%. Even at 0.01% itās not enough to change a national election but so far the closest anyone has ever come was 0.0025%. The last big tax payer funded investigation, the Trump administrationās voting integrity commission, found 0 fraudulent votes. Former Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach wasted his stateās tax payer money chasing fraud and his result was 14 cases of fraud out of 85,000,000 votes, a rate of 0.00000017%.
I think someone else noticed it happening while he was testifying.
Does that sound normal?
I also see that his name is Bobby Piton. He was in an election integrity meeting in Phoenix, AZ on Mondayā¦ Since the claim above was that I couldnāt give details, I found the detailsā¦
A Pennsylvania State Senator (Doug Mastriano) helped organize that very hearing on voter fraudā¦ His twitter account was removed from the siteā¦ Later, they claimed it was an āerrorā and put it back after the public rumblings startedā¦ As I have said before - these āerrorsā only ever happen 1 way on Twitter and Facebook.
Thatās another myth, it was looked into over and over again over the last nearly 70 years and no court acceptable evidence it happened has come to light. Itās like all conspiracy theories, they never die, they just keep being repeated without actual evidenceā¦
Typical tactic of dishonest debater, change the subject from national to local.
By my tally, so far 55 cases have been filed over the 2020 election. Of those 39 have ended with no significant voter fraud. Of course weāll let the rest of the cases wend their way through the courts over the next few years, but given the 50 year track record Iād bet there will be no significant voter fraud that affects the national election (Iām specifically not talking about local). You can have the last word as Iām putting you on ignore for your dishonest discussion tactics.
There is post office fraud documented, entering ballots received after the cutoff time, counting the same ballots multiple times - 100% democratic ballots being brought in by van in the middle of the night (witnessed by many people), counting ballots where both Trump and Biden were marked on the same ballot - but counting them as a vote for Biden, changing election rules in states where the rules actually violate the state constitution in those states, voting machine company workers observed plugging USB devices into computers and manipulating data in view of others, forcibly making it impossible for poll observers to do their job if they were republican, more votes in certain counties than registered voters, and in 1 case - even more votes than people living in that entire county (even if you counted children)ā¦ I read a story claiming that Native Americans were bribed in multiple states for their voteā¦ And, these are just the few I remember. Iāve read stories with many more issuesā¦ Some others that I am waiting to see if they are substantiated., Not seeing any of that on the regular news, are you? Their guy won, thatās whyā¦
When did talking about this online, whether you agree that it is true or not, become something that will get you banned from the internet in a free society?
Ok, I give up. Lets just go to mail in any piece of paper, check boxes on a web page from now on.
or better yet, lets just depend on political polling, no evidence of any mistakes or fraud there; after all we all know the 2016 pres elections were controlled by Russiansā¦and even though it has been 86 years since a pres was elected without winning Ohio and Florida, the polls must be accurate enough
So perhaps you can provide the name of the county where the number of votes cast exceeded the population. Surely whoever discovered this identified it. Should be a slam dunk for the Trump team.
I know one case of having apparently more votes was easily explained, and the Trump attorneys later admitted it: the analysis mixed and matched Minnesota and Michigan population and vote counts. https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/nov/20/rudy-giuliani/giuliani-cites-affidavit-crucial-errors-press-conf/
Reciting things you have a vague recollection of reading without bothering to provide a link is not a way to prove your point.
I ran a sports message board for years. I did not permit any political discussion, which became a problem when there were athletes everywhere speaking out against Trump. I banned a few accounts over it, which was within my rights.
Twitter/Facebook/Instagram currently has the same rights. Some politicians appear to believe their massive scale should require them to be treated as a part of the āpublic squareā. But to my knowledge, government requiring a company to distribute speech they object to has never been done.
Arenāt you mixing up two stories? Looks like several people have attempted to locate Pitonās āsuspendedā Twitter account and have concluded he never had one. Heās on Facebook, no restrictions there. So possibly the story is made up. There are two accounts tagged in the viral tweets about it, but they were suspended ages ago and already inactive.
I just found a story this morning about it. Seems to match what I heard on the radio yesterday.
I hate to beat the same drum over and over latelyā¦ But, I would love to make my point in detailā¦ However, I have previously spent a LOT of time on this forum doing just that thingā¦ Many times, Digging up facts and links and providing specific information, only to have the post removed by Leo. Iām sorry, but I am not going to spend the next hour looking for all the news stories I read in the last week or two, to document everything. Not after that has happened to me several times over the last year. Why should I waste my time? Iāve had many posts removed here and/or flagged by left leaning members who did not like the facts being postedā¦ Especially about Big Tech biasā¦ And, there was nothing objectionable at all about my postsā¦
I am not an idiotā¦ I can see my point of view is not wanted here after that has happened to many multiple times on this forum (Iāve even been flat out told that by a few people here publicly)ā¦ But, several people have also privately PMād me and left this forum because of the biasā¦ Sorry if you missed all thatā¦
Surely you can go looking for the information if you really want to know. Or, people can just go about believing what they already believeā¦ I mentioned what I mentioned because itās not true that there is no fraud. Iāve read about dozens of examples.
Iām all for voting integrity. Letās have an independent or bipartisan commission coordinate with state-level leaders and industry leaders to improve things all around. And letās do it over the course of the next two years.
With regards to the integrity of democracy I think gerrymandering is a much bigger issue than fraud. And the abuse of money in politics is an even bigger issue than gerrymandering.
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Or we can let the courts, rather than public opinion, decide. There were more than 150MM votes cast at more than 200k polling places across the country. At that scale, mistakes are going to be made; not every claimed irregularity is āfraudā. Stringing together a list of dozens or even a hundred isolated incidents does not equate to systemic fraud or a āriggedā election. Much of this bluster is a direct result of the Presidentās preemptive (and unprecedented) denunciation of the electoral process; and in the weeks since it has not been substantiated. At what point will the President simply accept that he lost, admit defeat, and stop trying to undermine the democratic process?
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