# Best coffee at home?
**URL:** https://www.twit.community/t/best-coffee-at-home/8647
**Category:** General Discussion
**Created:** [November 25, 2020, 4:32am UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/best-coffee-at-home/8647 "2020-11-25T04:32:45Z")
**Posts on this page:** 10
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### Author:  [@PHolder](https://www.twit.community/u/PHolder)
#### Post date: [November 27, 2020, 6:36pm UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/best-coffee-at-home/8647/21 "2020-11-27T18:36:46Z")
> [@BACONATOR26](#):
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> looks almost exactly like a french press
Hmmm I don’t see it. Perhaps we need a level set:
> **[French press](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_press)**
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> A French press, also known as a cafetière, cafetière à piston, caffettiera a stantuffo, press pot, coffee press, or coffee plunger, is a coffee brewing device, although it can also be used for other tasks. The earliest known device was patented in 1852 in France by Jacques-Victor Delforge and Henri-Otto Mayer.
> In English, the device is known in North America as a French press or coffee press; in Britain and Ireland as a cafetière, after the brand, La Cafetière; in New Zealand, Australia, and ...
To me it is closer to a:
> **[Moka pot](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moka_pot)**
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> The moka pot is a stove-top or electric coffee maker that brews coffee by passing hot water driven by vapor pressure through ground coffee. Named after the Yemeni city of Mocha, it was invented by Italian engineer Luigi Di Ponti in 1933 who sold the patent to Alfonso Bialetti, an aluminum vendor. It quickly became one of the staples of Italian culture. Bialetti Industries continues to produce the original model under the trade name "Moka Express".
> Spreading from Italy, the moka pot is today mos...
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### Author:  [@ScruffyDan](https://www.twit.community/u/ScruffyDan)
#### Post date: [November 27, 2020, 7:36pm UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/best-coffee-at-home/8647/22 "2020-11-27T19:36:20Z")
> [@BACONATOR26](#):
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> For anyone who has no idea how to make an espresso by hand: [How to Make Espresso Without an Espresso Machine (roastycoffee.com)](https://www.roastycoffee.com/how-to-make-espresso/)
I have to disagree with this. The methods listed in this article can make very good coffee, but they won’t make espresso.
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### Author:  [@Computeforloot](https://www.twit.community/u/Computeforloot)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2020, 5:14am UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/best-coffee-at-home/8647/23 "2020-11-28T05:14:08Z")
I love my Keurig, particularly using Peet’s Major Dickason’s Blend - very nice! I also use it to brew Twining’s English Breakfast and Earl Gray tea! I like the Earl Gray with a splash of Irish Whiskey
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### Author:  [@BACONATOR26](https://www.twit.community/u/BACONATOR26)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2020, 3:14pm UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/best-coffee-at-home/8647/24 "2020-11-28T15:14:52Z")
> [@big\_D](#):
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> Starbucks doesn’t seem to have taken off over here. Overly expensive and all those syrups etc. make it a hard sell.
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> There are so many cafes that sell good quality coffee at cheap prices and good roasters that make there own coffee on site and all charge a fraction of what Starbucks charge.
Don’t worry about it. To us this is as local and good quality as it gets. Starbucks still has locally owned stores just like yours and price competitively with other name brands.
I do agree though, it is quite puzzling from a market perspective.
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### Author:  [@BACONATOR26](https://www.twit.community/u/BACONATOR26)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2020, 3:16pm UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/best-coffee-at-home/8647/25 "2020-11-28T15:16:37Z")
> [@PHolder](#):
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> > [@BACONATOR26](#):
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> > looks almost exactly like a french press
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> Hmmm I don’t see it. Perhaps we need a level set:
> [French press - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_press)
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> To me it is closer to a:
> [Moka pot - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moka_pot)
The shape and appearance look the SAME! 😝
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### Author:  [@BACONATOR26](https://www.twit.community/u/BACONATOR26)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2020, 3:18pm UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/best-coffee-at-home/8647/26 "2020-11-28T15:18:51Z")
> [@ScruffyDan](#):
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> I have to disagree with this. The methods listed in this article can make very good coffee, but they won’t make espresso.
You guys are wearing me down. Do you know what an espresso is, for the audience, please?
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### Author:  [@PHolder](https://www.twit.community/u/PHolder)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2020, 5:56pm UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/best-coffee-at-home/8647/27 "2020-11-28T17:56:15Z")
Off hand, I’d define espresso as the way Italian strong coffee is made (it being an Italian word.) More specifically, usually a darker roast of coffee, usually made at a ratio of 1:1 or 1:1.5 packed coffee grounds to water. The particular thing about a good espresso is that it’s neither under nor over extracted, and is extracted relatively quickly at a high pressure (9 bars.) It usually has a nice crema and it’s surprisingly not bitter at all if done well.
If you’d prefer more a definitive answer, [James Hoffmann](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMb0O2CdPBNi-QqPk5T3gsQ) has a series of videos, starting here: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTFsBqhpLes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTFsBqhpLes)
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### Author:  [@Computeforloot](https://www.twit.community/u/Computeforloot)
#### Post date: [November 28, 2020, 11:37pm UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/best-coffee-at-home/8647/28 "2020-11-28T23:37:27Z")
I make my espresso with the Nespresso machine
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### Author:  [@CleVeRFeLLa](https://www.twit.community/u/CleVeRFeLLa)
#### Post date: [November 29, 2020, 3:26am UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/best-coffee-at-home/8647/29 "2020-11-29T03:26:07Z")
Peet’s for the win!..
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### Author:  [@ghostbuster3](https://www.twit.community/u/ghostbuster3)
#### Post date: [November 29, 2020, 7:12am UTC](https://www.twit.community/t/best-coffee-at-home/8647/30 "2020-11-29T07:12:11Z")
I prefer dark roasted Sumatran or Costa Rican beans.
I’ll prepare either in a french press, moka pot or aero-press. Each produces a different cup using the same bean. Sometimes I’ll use two of the three processes and combine before drinking.
Surprised no one has mentioned aero-press before now. Rather close to traditional espresso. I prepare it “upside down.” I assemble the two cylindrical pieces, add grounds and water (about 190 degrees F) and steep. Only then do I screw the filter on and invert over a mug and press down.
I’ve put the espresso machine in a drawer. It’s more work and more mess so unless I’m pulling 4 shots or more, I don’t use it. I will froth milk, but prefer more foam than milk, more macchiato than cappuccino. My definition of macchiato is espresso marked with foam, but there are other definitions.
But above all, drink what YOU like. Don’t let the coffee police tell you are doing it wrong.
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